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roland_tr-8 [2022/12/19 15:37] – Volume boost rjtroland_tr-8 [2025/05/08 16:34] (current) – [Notes] Note on accent/velocity rjt
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 +Don't worry, no one else likes the green either.
 +
 +===== MIDI =====
 +
 +I've started using [[Reaper]] to sequence the TR-8. Makes it less fuss to save and backup presets, lets you store knob positions, lets you change those values over time.
 +
 +FIXME → Add the .INS and other files I use.
 +
 +==== Notes ====
 +
 +I can't remember where I got the info for the accent, delay, and reverb notes, but reverb and delat work when I send through [[Reaper]]. I've never had luck with getting accents to actually do anything though, so to get the same effect I increase the velocity CC value by 27. The default, unaccented value, seems to be 80?
 +
 +This is for TR-8s with the 7×7 upgrade.
 +
 +| 12 | //Accent// NB: see above |
 +| 14 | //Reverb// |
 +| 16 | //Delay// |
 +| 35 | Bass Drum 2 |
 +| 36 | Bass Drum |
 +| 37 | Rim Shot |
 +| 38 | Snare Drum |
 +| 39 | Hand Clap |
 +| 40 | Snare Drum 2 |
 +| 42 | Closed Hi-hat |
 +| 43 | Low Tom |
 +| 46 | Open Hi-hat |
 +| 47 | Mid Tom |
 +| 49 | Crash Cymbal |
 +| 50 | High Tom |
 +| 51 | Ride Cymbal |
 +| 54 | Tambourine |
 +| 56 | Cow Bell |
 +
 +==== Control Change Messages ====
 +
 +All of the controls are accessible via MIDI CC messages. These are:
 +
 +| 9 | Shuffle |
 +| 12 | Ext. In Level |
 +| 13 | Ext. In Side Chain |
 +| 16 | Delay Level |
 +| 17 | Delay Time |
 +| 18 | Delay Feedback |
 +| 20 | BD Tune |
 +| 21 | BD Attack |
 +| 22 | BD Comp |
 +| 23 | BD Decay |
 +| 24 | BD Level |
 +| 25 | SD Tune |
 +| 26 | SD Snappy |
 +| 27 | SD Comp |
 +| 28 | SD Decay |
 +| 29 | SD Level |
 +| 46 | LT Tune |
 +| 47 | LT Decay |
 +| 48 | LT Level |
 +| 49 | MT Tune |
 +| 50 | MT Decay |
 +| 51 | MT Level |
 +| 52 | HT Tune |
 +| 53 | HT Decay |
 +| 54 | HT Level |
 +| 55 | RS Tune |
 +| 56 | RS Decay |
 +| 57 | RS Level |
 +| 58 | HC Tune |
 +| 59 | HC Decay |
 +| 60 | HC Level |
 +| 61 | CH Tune |
 +| 62 | CH Decay |
 +| 63 | CH Level |
 +| 68 | Scatter Type |
 +| 69 | Scatter Depth |
 +| 70 | Scatter SW |
 +| 71 | Accent |
 +| 80 | OH Tune |
 +| 81 | OH Decay |
 +| 82 | OH Level |
 +| 83 | CC Tune |
 +| 84 | CC Decay |
 +| 85 | CC Level |
 +| 86 | RC Tune |
 +| 87 | RC Decay |
 +| 88 | RC Level |
 +| 89 | Reverb Time |
 +| 90 | Reverb Gate |
 +| 91 | Reverb Level |
  
 ===== Notes ===== ===== Notes =====
 +
 ==== Flam ==== ==== Flam ====
 On a drum kit a //flam// is when you hit a drum with both sticks //almost// at the same time. On a drum kit a //flam// is when you hit a drum with both sticks //almost// at the same time.
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   - pink: 808   - pink: 808
   - yellow: 909   - yellow: 909
-  - pink: 808 (alternate)+  - pink: 808 (alternate, with maracas, clave, and congas instead of clap, rim shot and toms)
   - orange: 707   - orange: 707
   - blue: 727   - blue: 727
   - yellow: 909 (alternate)   - yellow: 909 (alternate)
 +
 +To change kits over MIDI send a program change (PC) command with the number of the kit (0-15).
  
 ===== Effects ===== ===== Effects =====
 +
 As well as using ''STEP'' to have reverb and delay only on certain steps, you can can limit them to certain instruments (very handy!). Press ''KIT'', then hold ''STEP'' on reverb or delay, then toggle things on and off with their buttons under the sliders. As well as using ''STEP'' to have reverb and delay only on certain steps, you can can limit them to certain instruments (very handy!). Press ''KIT'', then hold ''STEP'' on reverb or delay, then toggle things on and off with their buttons under the sliders.
  
-You can also use different reverbs and delays. Go into instrument mode (''INST''), then press ''STEP'' in the reverb or delay areas.+You can also use different reverbs and delays. Go into instrument mode (''INST''), then press ''STEP'' in the reverb or delay areas and select them with the pads. 
 + 
 +Reverbs: 
 + 
 +  - Non-attack 
 +  - Room 
 +  - 16 note pre delay 
 +  - Plate and filter (manual) 
 +  - Plate and filter (auto) 
 +  - Spring 
 +  - Non-attack and metal 
 +  - High pass 
 + 
 +Delays: 
 + 
 +  - One head tape 
 +  - Three head tape 
 +  - Digital single delay 
 +  - Digital pan delay 
 +  - Reverse single delay 
 +  - Reverse pan delay 
 +  - Stereo flanger 
 +  - Bit crusher 
 + 
 +Sidechains (External In): 
 + 
 +  - Sin curve 
 +  - Square curve 
 +  - Saw squared curve 
 +  - Square gate 
 +  - Sin very short curve 
 +  - Saw squared long curve 
 +  - Square short gate 
 +  - Up down curve 
 + 
 +See also: https://rolandcorp.com.au/blog/tr-8-and-effects-part-1-onboard-effects 
 + 
 +?6 delays, 8 reverbs, 8 sidechain types, as well as a scatter section, flanger and a bit crusher.
  
 ===== Settings ===== ===== Settings =====
-To enter settings hold ''PTN SELECT'' when turning on, and keep held until it's booted.+ 
 +To enter settings hold ''PTN SELECT'' when turning on, and keep held until it's booted. From there:
  
 ==== Colours ==== ==== Colours ====
 +
 Hold ''DEPTH'' and rotate the ''SCATTER'' dial to select from different colours for the lights. When selected let go of ''DEPTH'' and hit ''START/STOP'' Hold ''DEPTH'' and rotate the ''SCATTER'' dial to select from different colours for the lights. When selected let go of ''DEPTH'' and hit ''START/STOP''
  
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 Press ''START/STOP'' to save any changes you make. Press ''START/STOP'' to save any changes you make.
 +
 +==== Output Channel ====
 +
 +Instead of send all the instruments to both channels you can send particular ones (including the external in/s) to particular channels, allowing you to mix them differently.
 +
 +After booting into settings hold the A and B buttons to assign things.
 +
 +Anything not assigned will go to the regular mix output. If you take advantage of panning, by panning things completely to the left or right, this effectively gives you four outputs.
  
 ==== Volume ==== ==== Volume ====
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 ==== See Also ==== ==== See Also ====
   * [[yt>V1wlJe82VmI|Roland TR 8 boot mode, hidden functions part 1]] and [[yt>n-gKmdyuWTw|part 2]]   * [[yt>V1wlJe82VmI|Roland TR 8 boot mode, hidden functions part 1]] and [[yt>n-gKmdyuWTw|part 2]]
 +
 +===== Firmware =====
 +
 +You can check your firmware by holding 14 and 16 which powering on. When on press start/stop and the version will be displayed in the tempo window.
 +
 +Release notes are: https://www.roland.com/global/support/by_product/tr-8/updates_drivers/9d8e26ad-8810-479e-84d7-13d3f1362497/
 +
 +Updating works fine with [[Linux]] (they only mention [[microsoft_windows|Windows]] and Mac), you're just putting it into a mode where the OS will see it as a storage device and moving a file over.
  
 ===== See Also ===== ===== See Also =====
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   * [[yt>elOpe5IYobk|Roland AIRA TR-8 Tutorial (Settings, Sequencing, FX, Sidechain)]] - Another one.   * [[yt>elOpe5IYobk|Roland AIRA TR-8 Tutorial (Settings, Sequencing, FX, Sidechain)]] - Another one.
   * https://www.rolandcorp.com.au/blog/ultimate-guide-aira-tr-8   * https://www.rolandcorp.com.au/blog/ultimate-guide-aira-tr-8
 +  * https://www.roland.com/global/support/by_product/tr-8/updates_drivers/
 +  * https://www.roland.com/global/support/by_product/tr-8/owners_manuals/
 +  * [[https://tinyloops.com/doc/roland_tr-8/|Roland TR-8]] guide on tinyloops.com.
 +    * The [[https://tinyloops.com/doc/roland_tr-8/midi.html|MIDI]] page is nicely laid out (but pre 7×7 update).
  
 {{tag>hardware instrument music-making tool drum-machine guide Roland}} {{tag>hardware instrument music-making tool drum-machine guide Roland}}
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