====== MIDI Router ====== AKA: MIDI Patchbay, MIDI Patcher, ... Hardware for routing signals between [[MIDI]] hardware. Typically you can tell which devices to talk to each other, and filter those signals if you don't want certain messages (only clock, no velocity, etc.). Saves you having a mess of cables and organisation headaches connecting lots of devices by //thru// ports, which also means everything has to be turned on. Potentially also mitigates MIDI signal loss and can spare you running long daisy-chains. Vital in my setup. ===== Notes on Hardware ===== Some rough notes on models from when I was researching. Old rack ones are heaps cheaper than the MRCC and MioXL, so was mostly trying to get info. on those. My criteria: * 8×8 - 8 MIDI ins, 8 MIDI outs. * Ability to filter MIDI signals. * USB MIDI ins/outs - not required, nice to have as extras. * Kettle plug / not hard-wired power - Lots more available from NA/JP, didn't want to have to use a step-down convertor. (I ended up getting a [[JLCooper MSB Plus rev 2]])\\ (And I like it so much I'm planning on getting a second) Since I first put this together I've been using my computer for sequencing (using a Roland UM-One to send/get with USB), but still like playing with things when it's off and still need to be able to changing routing then too. ==== Require PC ==== * **Conductive Labs MIDI Router Control Center (MRCC)** ~$650 D: * https://conductivelabs.com/product/mrcc-midi-router-control-center/ * route heaps of things to heaps of others * can separate (filter) clock and notes * USB, DIN, TRS * Can also output CV * https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XtsUlc4A-XQ * you can even label shit if you plug in a computer keyboard * https://conductivelabs.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=2164 - din to usb port * Compatability: https://conductivelabs.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=1662 * has a fucking arpegiator * https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sRjD3sNZNsg * Conductive Labs' tutorials https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLVL26OPxckm72I-DPvmQMzfNv7PsfqboI * **iConnectivity MioXL** ~$700 D: D: * https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9vdHKQp-4Rk * Can use MIDI RTP, so can be communicated with over network, and so can use more channels. * DIN, USB * DIN 8 in/out, then 4 more outs. * Routing is set via PC software, presets selectable with hardware * Linux CLI: https://codeberg.org/pmatilai/mioctl * Can filter out lots of things like clock, notes, lots of others * Earlier versions don't have good USB MIDI (eg: Mio10 has 1) * 2 ins, 6 outs, and usb is on the front, which is a bit messy. * **Opcode Studio 64XTC** * 4 inputs DIN * 4 outputs (1 and 2 both have 2 though, so kinda 6) DIN * 128XTC model is 8x8 in/out * **Motu MIDI Express** * Hybrid, so needs computer to configure the routing * **MOTU MIDI TimePiece** * **Emagic Unitor 8 MKII** * 8x8 * Miditech Midiface 16×16 * https://miditech.de/en/portfolio/midiface-16x16/ * 16 ins, 16 outs * USB powered * No buttons, entirely done through computer. * 1.5U height; weird! * Midiplus MIDI 16x16 * Seems to be a knockoff of the Midiface. * Steinberg Midex 8 * ESI M8U eX * https://www.esi-audio.com/products/m8uex/ * 16 ports, assignable as in/out as you wish * Not rack mountable? ==== Standalone ==== * **MX28S** * https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9YmvJKIHR_Q * https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_wbHlUZS4-M * Old one with 2 inputs, 8 outputs * Reminds me a bit of the Kawai one. * Desktop, not rackmount * **Yamaha MJC8** * 8 inputs DIN * 8 outputs DIN * all on back * wired-in power * no filters? * ★**Roland A-880** ~$300 * 8 inputs DIN * 8 outputs DIN * 6 pairs on back, 2 pairs on front * easy ux * can filter (here clock is called Real Time messages) * wired-in power * Designed by as Australian ;) one of the Fairlight guys. * ★**Anatech SMP-16** * https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KZBjJGPiDoQ * 8 inputs DIN * 8 outputs DIN * Standard kettle plug for power * Also an audio patchbay! * There's also the small SMP-7, which is 6 in 8 out, no patchbay. * **Digital Music Corp MX-8** * 6 DIN inputs * 8 Din outputs * ★**[[jlcooper_msb_plus_rev_2|JL Cooper msb+ Rev2]]** * 8x8 * barrel jack for power * output 9V DC 500mA centre-positive * straight-forward interface with buttons. * can program more sophisticated routing * **KAWAI MAV-8** * 4 in, 8 out * nice interface with sliders... * but no fancy routing/filtering? * **Digital Music Corp MX-8** * routing similar to MSB+, but less good interface * wired power ===== See Also ===== * [[yt>KWaktL3nnYg|Overview of Midi interfaces - vintage, old and new]] - Music hardware YT vid that's not actually annoying. Probably what made me look out for older gear. {{tag>music-making hardware}}